Interview With Dr Janni Lloyd On Physical Immortality

I first learned about Dr Janni Lloyd and her philosophy on physical immortality at my friend Robin’s blog Let’s Live Forever. I was intrigued and read her discussions on Oprah’s website (the link is provided later in the interview).

Today I’m excited to interview her here. Whether you currently think physical immortality is possible or not, please take note because she has a lot to offer for our spiritual development — which is tied to our physical being.

Dr Janni Lloyd’s background

Akemi:  Janni, I am honored to have you here at Yes to Me for the interview.  I am also very excited to learn more about physical immortality.

Well, first things first. I wrote about you in my article about death and immortality, but I guess most readers don’t know you yet.  Will you introduce yourself to Yes to Me readers, please?  I heard you were a medical doctor before you turned to alternative health.  What is your background?

Janni: Yes, I was a medical doctor in general practice then I moved into Aura Soma therapy. I was always very interested in the psyche and emotions and how they were involved in dis -ease. I have been giving seminars on physical immortality philosophy for several years now, have written a paper entitled Physical Immortality – the mass possibility and am currently writing a book called ‘The Fun Way of Physical Immortality Philosophy’. I also love raising awareness on the internet and connecting with people all over the world, so thanks for this opportunity.

Is death inevitable?

Akemi: I guess most people see death as inevitable.  But from the medical perspective, are there reasons we must die, except in situations like disease, accidents, murder, or war?

Janni: If we take out disease, accidents, murder and war – all we have left is ‘aging’ which is a very vague collection of symptoms…  Gerontologists have not been able to determine the precise markers that define biological age.  We tend to put into the ‘aging’  symptom box things like memory problems – read Harvard psychologist Ellen Langers book Counterclockwise: Mindful Health and the Power of Possibility and you’ll think again about that one and most of the others you put into that category.

Gerontologists have developed several different theories of aging.  However they are just that – theories. The human body is amazingly complex. The life intelligence that orchestrated your development from a single cell into a baby is still operating within us and is AWESOME. What if that life intelligence responds to our desires? If we desire our body to rundown and decay, then maybe that’s what we get. What if we are running on a program we can change?

My feeling is that what we call ‘aging’ is actually a chronic dis-ease that we have accepted. Because we believed “death was inevitable” we created a way of fading out of life slowly – “aging”. If we liken our life force to a fully open stream of water – we turned the tap off slowly. Maybe it’s time to challenge this chronic dis-ease by releasing the ‘decay’ program.

Awakening to physical immortality

Akemi: When and how did you first get the idea of physical immortality?

Janni: My deep interest in the psyche and emotions led me to commence meditation in 1992. In October of that year , I had an inner awakening to ‘physical death is a choice’ and chose physical immortality almost immediately. Then the synchronicities began and it wasn’t long before I found How to Be Chic, Fabulous and Live Forever by Sondra Ray. And the synchronicities haven’t stopped, and still take my breath away at times.

Ways to physical immortality

Akemi: In your view, what does it take to achieve physical immortality?  Are there certain requirements physically (such as diet, exercise, lifestyle, etc.), mentally, emotionally, and spiritually?  Or is this about special medical procedure?

Janni: I feel there are many ‘ways’ of physical immortality, each will be as individual as our fingerprint. In my paper ‘Physical Immortality – the mass possibility’ – I share what I feel has enhanced my life force and my knowing.

There are probably some common steps – I certainly feel praise, love and gratitude are important to move to an open, unconditionally loving heart.  As always, I feel the pioneers will use a lot more techniques etc – once the path is more visible to people it will be a lot easier for those who make the choice in times to come.

I feel the medical science pathway is an important one for our awakening. Will we need medical procedures? maybe –  however with the speed of our awakening it’s unlikely.  We’re all in this together and all have valuable pieces of the divine jigsaw puzzle to share – the co – operative whole will bring in greater levels of life for all of humanity.

Immortal body

Akemi: And what does physical immortality look like?  Does our physical body remain basically the same?  I personally tend to think of it as lightbody.  Do you think we will still eat, excrete, sleep?  Will we have reproductive function?

Janni: I feel most of those will remain for a while. And we will only release those things if it is our choice and our joy to do so. I feel in time we will learn to teleport and maybe flit from dimension to dimension – we have eternity, there is no hurry and I love plane travel! …..although a somewhat quicker plane from Australia to just about anywhere would be nice.  lol

Reversing aging

Akemi: You also mentioned about human ability to rejuvenate.  Will you tell us more about this, please?

Janni: Rejuvenation is linked with letting go of the ‘aging’ chronic dis-ease – although some may choose a mature looking body that is flexible and vibrantly healthy. I feel this is the place where I would like to share a wonderful study. This study was done in 1976, by psychologist Ellen Langer and her team at Harvard, it demonstrates the power of the mind to reverse aging. Deepak Chopra describes this study in Ageless Body, Timeless Mind: The Quantum Alternative to Growing Old.

“The subjects, all 75 or older and in good health, were asked to meet for a weeks retreat at a country resort. They were informed in advance that they would be given a battery of physical and mental exams, but in addition one unusual stipulation was placed upon them; they were not allowed to bring any newspapers, magazines, books or family photos dated later than 1959. The purpose of this odd request became clear when they arrived – the resort had been set up to duplicate life as it was 20 years earlier. Instead of magazines from 1979, the reading tables held issues of Life and Saturday Evening Post from 1959. The only music played was 20 years old, and in keeping with this flashback, the men were asked to behave entirely as if the year were 1959. All talk had to refer to events and people of that year. Every detail of their week in the country was geared to make each subject feel, look, talk and behave as he had in his mid 50′s.

During this period, Langer’s team made extensive measurements of the subjects biological age. Gerontologists have not been able to fix the precise markers that define biological age, as I noted earlier, but a general profile was compiled for each man using measurements of physical strength, posture, perception, cognition and short term memory along with thresholds of hearing, sight and taste.

The Harvard team wanted to change the context in which these men saw themselves. The premise of their experiment was that seeing oneself as old or young directly influences the aging process itself. To shift their context back to 1959 the researchers had their subjects wear ID photo’s taken 20 years before – the group learned to identify one another through these pictures rather than present appearance, they were instructed to talk exclusively in the present tense of 1959 (“I wonder if President Eisenhower will go with Nixon next election”); their wives and children were referred to as if they were also 20 years younger; although all the men were retired, they talked about their careers as if they were still in full swing.

The results of this playacting were remarkable. Compared to a control group that went on retreat but continued to live in the world of 1979, the make believe group improved in memory and manual dexterity. They were more active and self sufficient about such things as taking their own food at meals and cleaning up their rooms, behaving much more like 55 year olds than 75 year olds (many had become dependent on younger family members to perform everyday tasks for them).

Perhaps the most remarkable change had to do with aspects of aging that were considered irreversible. Impartial judges who were asked to study before and after pictures of the men detected that their faces looked visibly younger by an average of three years. Measurements of finger length, which tends to shorten with age, indicated that their fingers had lengthened, stiffened joints were more flexible and posture had started to straighten as it had in younger years. The control group also showed some improvements (Langer explained this by the fact that going on a trip and being treated specially made them feel younger too). But the control group actually declined in certain markers such as manual dexterity and finger length. Intelligence is considered fixed in adults, yet over half of the experimental group showed increased intelligence over the five days of their return to 1959, while a quarter of the control group declined in IQ test scores.

Professor Langer’s study was a landmark in proving that the so called irreversible signs of aging could be reversed using psychological intervention.”

This result was achieved in under one week!

Pioneers in physical immortality

Akemi: Do you think there are already people who have achieved immortality?

Janni: Yes.  I feel our body has always had this remarkable potential, we have just been asleep to it. When you remember the awesome and miraculous life intelligence that orchestrated your physical body from a single embryonic cell, that life intelligence is always there and has always been there and just KNOWS how to give us ongoing healthy life – we just needed to wake up to what was right in front of us.

So there will have been those who have woken before. However physical immortality is non hierarchical – most of them would probably not have said much. And humanity as a whole was not ready to wake up – my feeling is that humanity as a whole is now ready.

Is there a dark side to physical immortality?

Akemi: In my home country, Japan, there is a legend of a priestess who lives 800 years (I guess that is pretty close to immortality.) But the legend is a sad one.  She survives all her loved ones and is very lonely.  Life is like a pointless repetition for her.  Do you think there could be negative sides to physical immortality?

Janni: People are always coming and going in our lives, we quite often feel sadness when we are seeing people off at the airport – often tinged with excitement of the stories they may tell us on their return!  Life is always about the filter we interpret and perceive our life through. My feeling is that with many people choosing physical immortality and also how easy it is to make new friends now from all over the world , I don’t feel physical immortality will be lonely or sad.

My experience of physical immortality philosophy in my life has created much interesting creative flow, certainly not pointless repetition. Being the powerful creative beings that we are, if after a couple of hundred years, we did find ourselves ‘bored’ we could always create physical death again! My feeling is that the choice never gets taken away.

Check out the vision of a physically immortal world that I’ve shared in my paper – all feels quite joyful and interesting to me. Your readers may also like to check out my thread in the Oprah community ‘Do you choose life?’

Akemi: I totally agree that life is what we make of it, and we each have a filter. With dark filter, anything can look negative, and the opposite is equally true. I see huge amount of untapped possibilities with life that goes on just as long as we want it.

Physical immortality and Ascension

Akemi: Okay, here is my last question, and for this question I need to explain what I do.  I read people’s soul records (called Akashic Records) and clear the energetic interferences.  I take clients from all over the world because distance doesn’t matter.

Earlier this year, I noticed some people are receiving new souls.  Their vibration rate rose so much that they receive updates from their Higher Self (oversoul).  The new soul is the same kind with the old, but is brand new, with no past lives, and therefore no negative energetic issues carried over from past lives. I call this evolutional phenomena “Ascension soul shift”.  Some people had Ascension soul shift before this year.  And I think this is related to the Earth’s change.

I feel that the mass interest in all things spiritual, including physical immortality, is related to this Ascension.  What do you think?  And do you have any opinion about reincarnation?

Janni: I feel using praise, love and gratitude energies is bringing in GRACE so karma is being transcended. Grace simply erases any ‘baggage’ and grants new perspectives. Maybe what you are seeing is part of the ‘clean slate’ that grace produces.

I feel re-incarnation may well have been our previous way of ‘re-inventing’ ourselves. We can now re-invent ourselves, have many different life experiences and bring out different aspects of our personality without needing to drop our physical body.

Akemi: Interesting. That is how I feel, too, that death and reincarnation had its place and function in human evolution, but we are getting into a new game, to a mostly uncharted sea of possibilities.

Thank you, Janni, for this inspiring and informative interview.

Janni: Thank you Akemi. It’s been an interesting and very enjoyable exchange.

Akemi’s takeaway
I’m impressed at the clarity and empoweredness of Janni. I gather that, if someone chooses physical immortality from the place of fear, like the fear of death, it’s not going to work well, because you’d be caught up in the illusion of duality. Choosing life and immortality is an absolute choice, not a choice on comparison, I think.

I also find it so encouraging that she comes from science background. It’s refreshing to hear ideas that resonate so well from someone with different background.

So what do you think? Please share in the comment.